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Part 9,653,870...Seriously, this has been going on for an eternity now, with no agreement in sight. Here's the latest:

Public input sought on Cayuga Heights deer plan

Hearing scheduled for Monday at elementary school
By Rachel Stern •[email protected] • December 2, 2010, 8:10 pm

Residents of Cayuga Heights and other area residents will have a chance to voice their opinions on the latest installment of the deer debate: the draft environmental impact statement.

The statement was prepared by Tim Miller Associates Inc. to evaluate the potential environmental impact from reducing the deer herd. It concluded that there are no negative impacts, said Mayor Kate Supron.

"There are actually many positives to restoring balance to the ecosystem. We have too many deer and that has impacted plants, other animals and human-deer interactions," Supron said.

A public hearing will start at 7 p.m. Monday at Cayuga Heights Elementary School. Village residents will speak before non-residents, with a 2-minute time limit. Written comments may be submitted through Dec. 16.

The impact statement includes a letter signed by Gordon Batcheller, chief wildlife biologist from the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, giving the village permission to reduce the herd by:

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for one... the village's domain is too small to make an impact. This should be done at the township or county level.
two... hunting is win-win-win (except for the deer ;) )

The village can easily sponsor a 2 week long hunting derby with a prize.
Promote it in neighboring counties too.

Compliment that with a few guides to promote hunting deer:
Recipes.
A list of local businesses that offer processing services.
A list and map of hunting locations in the area.
A safety guide (of course).

Open a hunting hotline to answer questions, offer advice, and take numbers.

Work with the DEC to set up a local booth for easily registration of hunting licenses.

Win - the overpopulation problem can be tackled by increased hunting efforts
Win - hunters have more incentive and encouragement to hunt for sport and food (food being a big plus in this economy)
Win - the derby could be a nice season attraction for the village and promoting local processors is also a plus.
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Cayuga Heights board OKs deer plan
Remediation opponents criticize trustees' vote
6:56 PM, Apr. 7, 2011
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Rachel Stern

The board of trustees unanimously passed a resolution Monday night to begin the deer-remediation plan outlined in the environmental impact statement on the project. The village will begin with the surgical sterilization of 20 to 60 does within a two-year period, followed by the culling of the remainder of the herd.

"The program is simply to sterilize does, and then, in some fashion, cull the deer," Mayor Kate Supron said. "There are different options about how to kill and we have not decided on which option yet. That is the work that lies ahead."

The vote took place during the village's annual organizational meeting. The deer issue has been a controversial one and the vote was no different. Members of the community voiced concerns that the board did not let the public know a vote would take place at the Monday meeting. However, other members of the public said the meeting was a legal one and the board has a right to vote on matters at any meeting.

Village Clerk Mary Mills said she was not sure when the agenda was posted on the village website. She e-mailed the agenda to trustees last Thursday, but she was not sure when the person who updates the website posted the agenda. However, she said, the village is not required to post an agenda.

Supron defended the action by saying the board made it clear during the trustees' March meeting that the next step was voting on the state environmental quality review findings statement. People who raised questions about the way the vote was conducted are those who oppose the remediation plan, she said.

"In no way have we tried to do this on the sly," she said. "Maybe this seemed anticlimactic to people, but the purpose of all meetings is to conduct village business with the public present as they desire."

The findings statement that the board unanimously adopted Monday night proposes that after the core population of does is sterilized and tagged, professional sharpshooters will be hired to shoot unsterilized deer at bait sites. It is anticipated the initial culling of the herd will be completed within the year after sterilization has been completed.

The first phase of sterilization is estimated to take two years at an average cost of $1,200 per doe, according to the statement. The cost estimate for the bait-and-shoot method, to take place within the year after sterilization, is $400 to $500 per deer.

It is estimated that six to 10 sites will be needed to complete the culling, according to the statement.

According to James LaVeck of Cayugadeer.org, four people were at the meeting, including himself, and the agenda was not posted until after the meeting. Therefore, the public had no way of knowing a vote would take place, said LaVeck, of Collegetown.

"It is proof the trustees feel their policy cannot withstand public scrutiny," he said. "The lack of transparency is very disturbing and I think this action really deviates from the normally high standard we have here of our governments."

Cayuga Heights resident Ann Druyan, who was not at the meeting, echoed LaVeck's sentiments. Though Druyan opposes the killing of the deer, she said the issue transcends people's stance on the issue.

"The way they chose to announce this was to do it in a way that people who have been engaged in the issue would be blindsided," she said. "If they had announced that this would be a meeting in which they would declare their conclusions, then the place would have been filled to capacity."

But other residents did not see any problem with the way the board conducted the vote.

The meeting was an official one, said Elizabeth Mount, a village resident and regular attendee at board meetings. The board has every right to vote on issues, regardless of public turnout, she said.

"It was an official meeting and we all could have gone," she said. "It is the board's legal right to vote and it is our fault for not being there."

Village resident Ron Bors attended Monday's meeting. He said he is generally in support of the plan and the vote seemed like a natural progression.

"Everybody knew the vote was coming and everybody knows important business is transacted at every meeting," he said. "The vote was the natural next step, so I expected that this was coming."

The board has spent a year and a half going through the legal process, Supron said. The public has had several opportunities to speak on the issue.

Whether the agenda was posted before the meeting is inconsequential, she added. There is no requirement to post an agenda and either way, the board voted and will carry out the remediation plan.

"I am sorry people are bothered they were not present, but this has been an open and legal process," she said. "When people start saying we are being sly and underhanded and haven't been fair, I do not see any basis for that. We have been extremely open and extremely fair in listening to people's views."
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Brenda wrote:The first phase of sterilization is estimated to take two years at an average cost of $1,200 per doe, according to the statement. The cost estimate for the bait-and-shoot method, to take place within the year after sterilization, is $400 to $500 per deer.
:shock: I would think some good ol bow hunters could save the residents a shit ton of money!
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The residents of Cayuga Heights really crack me up.
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HUNT!
Start hunting education days.
Gun safety courses
Derbies!!!
promote hunting as a sport!
promote deer products as an industry
Save taxpayer money!
politicians are such idiots.
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nah. They wouldn't do that. They're liberal Bambi-loving tree huggers. :P
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