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Postby Winnie » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:41 pm

Do you like shooting Black & White Shots? Here is one of mine to share.

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Re: Black & White Photography

Postby chris270 » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:46 pm

I like b&w alot, sometimes leaving a little color can add some spotlight on subject. I think a boost of contrast will help your photo define some lines much more.
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Re: Black & White Photography

Postby skiboarder72 » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:08 am

looks good wsa, a lot of your shots seem like they would work well in black and white, just up the contrast a tad :)
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Re: Black & White Photography

Postby Matt » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:04 am

Contrast may help, but color filtering may make it pop.
Was this originally a color shot?
Do you shoot using the camera's B/W setting or desaturate in software?
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Re: Black & White Photography

Postby Winnie » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:04 am

This was originally shot in B&W. I used my point and shoot camera and I am still learning my new camera and my photo editing software. I am really new at this. I have no photography training, I just love being out with my camera. I have been looking into classes at TC3. My cousin .. Who is a member of the forum, but is not on a lot goes there, and she has learned a lot.

I have no idea how to use the manual settings on my camera as of yet. The one time I did try ... I got an all white picture, with nothing in it, but I wanted to see what those settings would do, and we know those are not something to use now. I plan to get out more and practice more as some of the ice goes away. I want to learn using the manual settings. I am just too chicken of the ice. (I will share if anyone wants to know, just ask!!).
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Re: Black & White Photography

Postby Matt » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:06 am

It's great that you are learning. I am still too. A course helped me out a few years ago, but most of my training is from books. Feel free to ask us any questions about any aspect of photography. There's a lot of stuff that I don't know, but i'm sure some of the folks on here can help. When I started this site, I was new to photography too and having a project (shooting waterfalls) and this community (where I can ask questions) have been a big help with learning.

As far as black and white... I'm a big fan of color... so i don't have many, but I've been comissioned to convert some of my prints to B&W for a sale and I'll post them here (as well as my conversion technique) as soon as I can get around to it.
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Re: Black & White Photography

Postby Winnie » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:48 pm

Thanks Matt ... I do have one question that has been in the back of my mind for months now and you might laugh about it. :?

How do you guys get the copy right sign and your names on your pictures?

~Winnie~
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Re: Black & White Photography

Postby Matt » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:51 pm

photoshop or photoshop essentials. There are many other ways fo doing it. What editing program do you use?
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Re: Black & White Photography

Postby Matt » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:22 am

The trick to a proper Black and white conversion is to use contrast to give the photo depth. The black levels should be a lot higher in the B & W version than the color. But it's not enough to turn up the blacks, you have to turn up the blacks that stem from the dominant color in your shadows... and crank the highlights that come only from the dominant highlight color.

These are conversions I have done that will appear in a Black and White section of the print store.

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Re: Black & White Photography

Postby Winnie » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:57 am

Great photos.

I have been experimenting with Adobe Photoshop - Starter Edition. I have been searching some on the web also. I tried picsa .. I believe that was the name, and it wouldn't save the edits. I am glad it was a trial version.
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Re: Black & White Photography

Postby hoohaa » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:10 am

Sounds like a really good idea for a tutorial (hint, hint) Matt. :)

I'd love to know about how to do a good B&W conversion as most of mine I either just grayscale or mess up. I love the looks of these shots.
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Re: Black & White Photography

Postby Matt » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:05 pm

With photoshop, just use the text tool to type a copyright label into any of your shots. It should put it on a seperate "Layer" so it you can remove it later.
Picasa doesn't save modificatiosn to your shots. It remembers what you have doen to a shot so you can always come back and undo those actions, and in order to get a modified image out of Picasa you have to export the images.

I could wite a tutorial for B/W conversions but there's so many ways to do it, I wouldn't know where to begin. I would say at this point, try the B/W conversion tool in Cs3, and remeber to identify which color are dominant by inspecting the seperate RGB channels first.
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Re: Black & White Photography

Postby Winnie » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:07 pm

Awesome. I will give it all a try when I get home to my photo station. Thanks for the info Matt!!
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Re: Black & White Photography

Postby Matt » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:31 pm

if you need further help on that, create a seperate topic and perhaps I can come up with a quick tutorial and some templates.
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Re: Black & White Photography

Postby hoohaa » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:57 pm

I need to get ahold of CS3. :)
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